
There’s something refreshing about hearing someone call your product sht* :)), and then explaining why that’s actually a good thing.
That’s what happens when you talk to Bobby Moesta, the mind behind Jobs To Be Done and the person who’s been quietly shaping how some of the best founders in the world build, sell, and think.
We had Bob on LaunchPod, and this episode hit different.
Every founder has heard it. Some have believed it.
But according to Bob, that’s where most startups die.
“You don’t create demand. You discover it.”
Most of us build something we’d love to see exist — but forget to ask if anyone else actually wants it.
Bob calls this the “builder’s trap”: falling in love with your solution, not the problem.
The fix? Go find the moments when people struggle. Watch what they do when they can’t make progress. That’s where real opportunities hide.
Bob doesn’t believe in pain points.
Pain points make it sound like people are broken.
But struggling moments? They’re signals of motivation.
“People don’t buy products. They hire them to make progress.”
That mindset shift — from fixing pain to enabling progress — changes everything.
Suddenly, you’re not guessing what people want. You’re helping them move forward.
Bob said something that stuck:
“Sales isn’t about convincing people. It’s about helping them see what’s possible.”
Founders often avoid selling because it feels “pushy.”
But if you’ve built something valuable and you understand your customer’s struggle, sales becomes service. That’s what separates product builders from product leaders.
One of Bob’s favorite lines (and ours) — people complain all the time.
That doesn’t mean they’re ready to change.
“Until the cost of doing nothing becomes higher than the cost of change, people stay stuck.”
Your job as a founder isn’t to make people love your product. It’s to understand what finally makes them move.
Bob’s world is all about progress. Not perfect wireframes. Not polished decks. Not growth hacks.
Just real human progress.
And that’s why his advice hits so hard — it’s not about frameworks, it’s about empathy.
If you’ve ever built something, launched something, or even dreamed about it… this conversation will make you pause, nod, and maybe whisper to yourself:
“Damn. He’s right.”
🎧 Listen to the full podcast episode here:
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